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For about 7 or 8 days our weapons were empty. I asked them to give us bullets so that we can defend ourselves. They gave us bullets and we were 20 days on the ground, we were bombed, we suffered thirst, we suffered so much… they took us to Ashraf again. They said that Brother has ordered us to get back to the camp Ashraf. They placed a white flag on the cars, meaning they have surrendered. Before that, they said that “Not you, not Mullahs” and also claimed that they don’t cooperate with anyone. But the first day they cooperated with Americans and surrendered their weapons. They were disarmed.
I’m Mohsen Malia, from the city of Tehran. I had friend called Amir Talavati. We were friends for 3 years. He had told me that he had lost his brother 3 years ago. He said that they had informed Interpol and …about the issue. After a few months to copy a CD (I worked in a Computer Services shop). He said that Ahmad has called and said that he should go to Europe. I said where? He said Denmark. He asked me to go with him. I accepted because I think that it’s both a vacation and a job opportunity. I told it to my parents. They said that I could sell what I had in order to afford the travel. We didn’t have passports, so my father managed our illegal border crossing. We went to the border with my father. There was a man called “Taher” who took us to the other side by receiving 50000 Tomans for each of us. There in Turkey, smugglers took us to the city of Van and submitted us to the so-called smugglers of Ahmad. We didn’t know that they’re supporters of MKO. He took us to a home. Then he said that we should go to Iraq. We asked “why Iraq?”. “Ahmad has said that you should go to Iraq. There you should stay in a camp for a few days and then you’d go to Denmark,” he told us. We accepted. We went to Ankara by forged passport. There, Ali Ankarayee took us to a hotel. We were there for 4 days. During these days, Ahmad phoned us, some women called. They said that it’s a good place. We asked about his location. Once he said he is in Denmark, once in Sweden, once in Germany. Then we got on a train to go to Iraq. We were on train for 30 hours. There, 8 people welcomed us. They received us very warmly, as if they knew us for years! They took us to a restaurant and I found that they were armed. I was afraid but my friend said that it may be due to the war in Iraq. They said that we should go to Ashraf Camp. “Where’s Ashraf”, we asked? “It’s a place to fight the mullah’s regime. There’s armed struggle.” We were shocked. Armed struggle…?! We were supposed to Denmark. They said that there’s nothing about Denmark and Ahmad is also there in the camp. From that very point I said that I wanted to leave. They said that we had to go Ashraf. There, they gave us military uniforms. We went to the Reception section. I said the Abbas Zadeh (person in chief of that section) that I want to return. He said that I had to remain for 2 years in Exit section to become free of intelligence. He also said that I had to stay in Abu Ghraib for 8 years. Abu Ghraib was a place no one could get out of alive. We had no way but to accept. We signed some papers that NLA is our family and … they gave me the nickname of “Peyman”. Then they showed some videos in which Massoud Rajavi talked about revolution, divorce and … We always quarreled with officials. They beat us, insulted us. We had no one. There was an army and I couldn’t talk. I had to accept their words. After 10-15 days of our reception, the Iraq war began and regime of Iraq was toppled. They spread us. We were bombed. I had never seen a bombardment. They gave us empty weapons and sent us on the ground. Empty weapons? Where should we go? Not taking it is better. It was like a piece of wood for us. For about 7 or 8 days our weapons were empty. I asked them to give us bullets so that we can defend ourselves. They gave us bullets and we were 20 days on the ground, we were bombed, we suffered thirst, we suffered so much… they took us to Ashraf again. They said that Brother has ordered us to get back to the camp Ashraf. They placed a white flag on the cars, meaning they have surrendered. Before that, they said that “Not you, not Mullahs” and also claimed that they don’t cooperate with anyone. But the first day they cooperated with Americans and surrendered their weapons. They were disarmed. After a while they held a meeting and said that those who want to go are free now to leave. A number of members left. I also went and wrote my request for leaving. They didn’t accept and said that we should give you to your family and thus you should stay here until the late June 2005. They said that Ahmad should allow you to leave. Anyway, after long discussions, Ahmad said them to send me back. I wrote a request to leave that I can’t live anymore here because there was no money, no wife, no kids, nothing. But I was young and I wanted to have a good life. They called me and asked me to sign something. I signed my expulsion form. Then, I joined the American camp. I was happy since I thought that I am free. I didn’t know that it is worse. For about 3 or 4 months, situation was very bad. Americans didn’t listen to us. It was said that a US general has received 170000 dollars to bother us and force us to return to Mojahedin. We suffered many difficulties but none of us returned to them, except one who went and then came back again. After a while they gave protected status and situation became better. They gave us TV, satellite dish, and Radio. Radio was precious at that time. We were free to leave the camp for shopping. They changed our tents and gave us fans. Before that, we didn’t have fan and the heat was terrible. Whenever we asked them about our process and the time it’s finished, they only said “soon”. We were in the camp for a year and one day I heard from Radio that a hundred former members of Mojahedin would enter Iran. I was happy because I was among them. Then they investigated us and gave us money and sent us back to Iran. Here, I didn’t expect to be treated in this way. They received us very warmly. I thought that I would be taken to prison, but they behaved us so good that I’m ashamed of myself. Anyway I’m so happy to be here in Iran. In order to watch the film of interview, please click <1>here<1>. To read “MEK and Human Smuggling”, please click <2>here<2>

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