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Ambassador Kobler has had extensive and detailed discussions with both the people at Camp Ashraf - well, the leaders at Camp Ashraf and with - and in Paris. So the MEK knows very well what he is - what the circumstances will be and what the arrangements are.

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QUESTION: And who runs Liberty now? Is it the Iraqi army or -

AMBASSADOR FRIED: It's an Iraqi - that's right. We turned over Camp Liberty to the Iraqi military. They're there. There have been some - a lot of discussions about the security arrangements in future Camp Liberty, and Ambassador Kobler has had these in some detail with his - with his Iraqi counterparts. It will be an Iraqi facility. It's not going to be a kind of independent, self-governed, autonomous, extraterritorial facility, which is what Camp Ashraf has been for many years.

And the - Ambassador Kobler has had extensive and detailed discussions with both the people at Camp Ashraf - well, the leaders at Camp Ashraf and with - and in Paris. So the MEK knows very well what he is - what the circumstances will be and what the arrangements are.

QUESTION: And when you talk about it, can you just say, I mean, just for example, what kind of means would one have gotten there other than voluntarily going in?

AMBASSADOR FRIED: Sorry?

QUESTION: Well, I mean, like the North Koreans, are they running around kidnapping people and bringing them to Camp Ashraf? How do you get there involuntarily? How would one get there?

AMBASSADOR FRIED: There - well, let me refer you to some of the outside studies that have been written - the Rand Corporation report, for one. Take a look at that, or Human Rights Watch. They've described what they think are some of the problems. The MEK denies it. Right now, our concern is humanitarian and getting the people out of Ashraf over to Liberty, and then we'll deal with the next set of really tough problems, which is repatriation/resettlement of these folks.

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